Katie Souza said that transformation in the Spirit happens in the soul realm, not the spirit realm, during her message at the Charisma Conference 2018. Following her teaching, Souza called out people with specific medical ailments and invited them to the stage to be healed. Several people testified onstage that they had been healed. An informal head count by Souza counted 36 people who reported at least partial healing.

"This is the work of the Holy Spirit," Souza said. "It's surely not me. I'm just allowing the Holy Spirit room. And we need to do the same thing. We need to start relying on the Holy Spirit more to get all our problems and answers solved."

Souza showed several videos highlighting her healing ministry of those with metal in their bodies, in which she had them share their story and then scanned them with a metal detector to confirm they had no more metal.

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Souza said that because Christ lives in your spirit, the believer's spirit has already been made excellent. But the soul, she said, is the source of bad decisions and negative emotions, so the soul needs to be submitted to the Holy Spirit.

"Your soul is your mind, your will and emotions," Souza said. "Is your soul out of control? ... Are you constantly making bad decisions? Are you having emotions that are out of control? If so, you need some Holy Spirit dunamis power so you can become excellent of soul."

Souza based her teaching on the Greek word dunamis, as it applied to the Holy Spirit's power, and cited the Amplified translations of 1 Corinthians 2:10 and 12:4.

"Even the Holy Spirit lives in our spirit, he wants to invade your soul," Souza said. "He wants to invade your soul, and then he wants to invade your body. And when we let him do that, when we release him with a word of God, ... and he goes into our soul and strengthens it and reinforces our soul with dunamis power, we become full of and controlled by the Holy Spirit."

She says when people get healed in their soul, that's when real miracles happen.

"You don't have to beg for it, fast for it, [or] pray for it," Souza said. "It's in there. Use it."

She said letting the Holy Spirit enter the soul impacts and elevates spiritual gifts: "You will operate in the higher level gifts as you allow the Holy Spirit to invade your soul with dunamis power and make you excellent in power."

Souza is the founder of the prison outreach Expected End Ministries, as well as Katie Souza Ministries. Last October, Charisma House published her book, Healing the Wounded Soul.

Before the message, Souza remarked, "I don't want to just speak a message. I want to see people get healed." Watch the healings begin in the video playlist above, and visit and subscribe to the Charisma Magazine YouTube page for more videos from the Charisma Conference 2018.

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