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Suicide: Heaven or Hell

If someone takes their own life where will they spend eternity? We'd love to know about any scriptures or resources you have that supports your perspective. Add your thoughts below.

Steven Owen
Well where did Judas go? He was the first to commit suicide in the New Testament and he wasn't saved!
May 25 at 2:38pm · · · Flag
Jeanette Rose Jacono
Jeanette Rose Jacono
WOW, not even going to touch this one...
May 25 at 2:40pm · · · Flag
Robyn Barbour
Robyn Barbour
The scripture that comes to mind is that if you destroy the temple of the Holy Spirit , God will destroy you. I Corinthians
Will have to go look it up for the verse.
That being said, only God knows when someone is responsible for their actions, mentally ill, and can of course forgive.
May 25 at 2:41pm · · · Flag
Christine Bates Slover
Christine Bates Slover
If they are saved, they go to heaven. You can not lose your salvation. If they are unsaved, unfortunately, they go to hell.
May 25 at 2:41pm · · · Flag
Robyn Barbour
Robyn Barbour
Good points Anny!
May 25 at 2:49pm · · · Flag
Donna D. Harley
Donna D. Harley
I've been a Christian for as far back as I can remember and I'm 54 years old now. I know personally of two very strong Christians who have killed themselves. The were in such mental anguish that their minds snap. I have no doubt that they are in heaven with Jesus. A Christian is not exempt from going through mental issues. Sometimes mental issues can kill, just like physical issues. Jesus looks at our "hearts."
May 25 at 2:51pm · · · Flag
Chad Smith
Chad Smith
Being a pastor this question is asked to me time and time again. The only thing we have is found in the New Testament about Judas committing this act. Someone also brought up the once saved always saved issue and would you use this argument with the one who betrayed the Lord?!? Salvation is pertinent on repentance and denial of the self to follow ... See MoreChrist. If we go back to that old lifestyle how can we say we know Jesus and live for him if we are living in that which we denied. This is a conflict of interest for those who are serving Jesus. Therein is the issue with suicide as it brings the person to the place of the old lifestyle. To be honest, when preaching these types of funerals the only thing to do is preach God's grace to the family and offer the comfort of the Holy Spirit. God is the only judge and we have to look to Him.
May 25 at 2:54pm · · · Flag
Donna D. Harley
Donna D. Harley
sorry my grammar and sentence structures were so bad, above. I have my two youngest granddaughters and I'm writing in a rush :)
May 25 at 2:54pm · · · Flag
Donna D. Harley
Donna D. Harley
No, no, Pastor Chad, it doesn't always bring the person back to the old lifestyle. People can be in such grief, mental illness, etc. that they simply snap.
I don't believe in "once saved, always saved." But I also will never believe that Jesus does not understand the heart of a true Christian who never meant to take their own lives, but snapped... See More under extreme pressure.
It doesn't matter what people think about this issue - and I don't see how Judas has anything to do with it.
Jesus understands better than anyone, better than our own relatives, and yes, even better than our Pastors. He LOVES us and weeps when we weep. Thank God He has taught me, personally, that He understands our "human-ness." When I learned this, it freed me to fall at His feet and not be afraid to tell Him how I felt about anything - He already knows our feelings anyway. When we bring them to Him, He is compassionate and helps us.
And when great people of God take their own lives, it's not due to satan if they continue to love God with all their hearts. It's simply their human brains could not stand anymore pain and they snapped.
May 25 at 3:03pm · · · Flag
Donna D. Harley
Donna D. Harley
That precious Grace and Mercy is what Jesus gives to the Christian who commits suicide, as long as they have not totally turned against God "knowingly" - and I believe it rare for anyone who truly loves God to turn away blatantly and knowingly - when in their right mind or not.
The stripes Jesus gave for healing also applies to mental illness - no matter what the cause of the mental illness or anguish.
May 25 at 3:10pm · · · Flag
Robert D Lockyer
Robert D Lockyer
great topic,but just think to spend time seeking to luv jesus ...would be always more productive then finding loopholes for suicide and salvation
May 25 at 3:15pm · · · Flag
Donna D. Harley
Donna D. Harley
@Robert: Hi Robert :) I don't find any type of loophole regarding any of the two issues you present.
However, I do find it productive to let God speak to our hearts regarding these subjects. I've been able to minister to hurting families who were concerned when they lost strong Christian family members to suicide.
I'm very humbled and ... See Morethankful that God has given me the reassurance regarding some difficult areas - and I assure you I spent time seeking answers from Him and Him alone. Gob bless :)
May 25 at 3:19pm · · · Flag
Michael Beattie
Michael Beattie
I John 1:9 says if we confess our sins He is faithful to forgive us & cleanse us from all unrighteousness; Exodus 20:13 (6th of 10 Commandments) says Thou shall not kill (murder); I believe this applies to ourselves as well. It is presumptious to ask forgiveness before the sin is committed and since we can't ask after we are dead, how can we ... See Moreexpect it? Killing one's self is going outside of God's will as He is the only one that can rightfully choose our day of departure from the natural world. Would you dare come before God, on your judgement day, with your own blood on your hands?
May 25 at 3:23pm · · · Flag
Denise Glass Parrish
Denise Glass Parrish
MATTHEW 12: 31-32 "Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. And whoever shall speak a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever shall speak against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age, or in the age to come".
May 25 at 3:24pm · · · Flag
Holly Matthews Carey
Holly Matthews Carey
I think God has grace on those who have gotten to that point. I cannot see God just turning on those who got so mentally "bad off" that He would send them to hell. No, we are not supposed to take our lives...and most of us know that...BUT, what happens when you lose the ability to remember, or when the pain is so bad that you can no longer think ... See Morestraight? THIS (the pain issue) became VERY REAL to me a week ago monday as I had a sudden health issue arise that was so painful that i was in and out of consciousness for at LEAST 5 hours til a doctor came into my room at the hospital ER! I got so weak that I no longer wanted to fight...But God had grace on me...and now I have a new understanding in this area. Anyway, tks for bringing up the topic. I guess in the end God is the ultimate Judge...and he will judge us separately how HE see's fit. We need to pray for people...reach out to them befor they get to the point of taking their own lives if we can! God Bless!
May 25 at 3:25pm · · · Flag
Trevor van Vuuren
Trevor van Vuuren
To me it is very simple. Does a born again person who dies of cancer go to hell because they were sick? God forbid. So likewise, a person who commits suicide who may be sick in the head and committed suicide won't go to hell either. What if they weren't sick in the head but were yet born again? It says in 1 John that as a true born again believer ... See Moreof God no one goes out deliberately to commit sin. No one person wants to commit suicide, but let's not forget the extreme pressure of circumstances and our old enemy satan who will seduce them into believing that is the only way out! Remember this; God IS love, He doesn't have love He IS love, and Love is not trying to keep people out, He's trying to get them into heaven. Shalom
May 25 at 3:31pm · · · Flag
Simpson Merita
Simpson Merita
There's a fine line between belief and unbelief..Scripture teaches that without faith it is impossible to please God, for he (or she) that comes to God must believe that he is and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, but if the full truth is not spoken behind pulpits or in any ... See Moreother area, some may become confused and the enemy of our souls can "steal" the truth from us...which could lead to negative outcomes. To me its a frightful situation to be in.
May 25 at 3:36pm · · · Flag
Donna D. Harley
Donna D. Harley
@Michael: Christians who take their own lives have not planned to do so, it happens in a moment of extreme anguish and their minds snap. I don't believe the issue of forgiveness has anything to do with it, as the person was not in their right mind when it happened. The person's heart had not changed toward God.
I don't expect to change anyone'... See Mores mind, just present what I believe and feel in my heart is true. I do not believe taking one's life when one's mind snaps is murder as God would see it, not at all.
Although I have assurance on this (and not due to any of my own family members ever having committed this act,) I am not trying to change minds of others, even though my own heart is secure in what I believe regarding this issue.
It is certainly OK to agree to disagree :) God bless :)
My son has been an ordained Bishop since he was in his mid-twenties. He has his PhD in Licensed Counseling, Supervision and Education, from a Christian university. I had no idea that he would do his dissertation on the issue of mental illness and how the church feels about it. He sent out hundreds of surveys to our church members and other church members. We were both shocked to find that 4 to 1, most church members believe that "all" mental illness is due to demon possession - God help us.....that is so untrue...... We serve a God of compassion Who loves and understands His children! Praise His Name! :)

I must run! Blessings to all! :)
May 25 at 3:36pm · · · Flag
Donna D. Harley
Donna D. Harley
@Holly: Amen, Sweetie! I have to run, but want you to know I am praying for you! God bless your heart!
May 25 at 3:40pm · · · Flag
Elaine Tompkins Edington
Elaine Tompkins Edington
Murder is murder...
May 25 at 3:41pm · · · Flag
Roy Moffett
Roy Moffett
there is no other place than Heaven for Father Dennis..no matter his manner of death

http://www.frdennisrochefo rd.org/
May 25 at 3:42pm · · · Flag
Jake- Tanya Dalton
Jake- Tanya Dalton
My take has always been, that if suicide is greater than what Jesus did on the cross, then his crucifixion was a failure, and I don't believe that it was. He knew it all, and He took it all while He was on the cross. From the "little" sin to the most gruesome, gory sin was washed clean. End of story.
May 25 at 3:43pm · · · Flag
Donna D. Harley
Donna D. Harley
@Trevor: Amen, I agree with you! But I don't believe it's always satan that causes a Christian to get to a horrible place mentally - sometimes it is simply chemical imbalance, or extreme stress that ultimately destroys the sense of reason. I've enjoyed reading everyone's thoughts! Blessings to all! :)
May 25 at 3:44pm · · · Flag
Martin Britton
Martin Britton
God is merciful! I knew of a street evangelist who was the boldest christian I ever met,yet a couple years after I met him,he committed suicide in a hotel room!We cannot know what kind of demonic attack that these people go through!Especially if they aren't submitted to a pastor who can provide a spiritual covering for them.
May 25 at 3:53pm · · · Flag
Donna D. Harley
Donna D. Harley
@Holly: This conversation just reminded me of something else. I used to always think that drug addicts, alcoholics, etc. would all go to hell. BUT, I have come to know some addicted who have reached out to Jesus and received salvation. Some were instantly delivered of their addictions, some were not. Some are still struggling with it, but are ... See Moretrusting God and trying with all their heart, through prayer, etc. to become totally free, but have not yet reached that destination. In this situation, also, I believe that if they were to die, or Jesus were to return, they would still go to heaven, as they were trusting Him for total healing, knowing it was wrong, seeking to be totally free with all their being. Just as the sin of gluttony, no difference. Again, the Word which says that Jesus looks on our "hearts." I'm so thankful that HE alone is the one Who knows our hearts and judges, and not any of us........

Praise God for His touch in your life during that time of crises, Holly! :)
May 25 at 3:54pm · · · Flag
Donna D. Harley
Donna D. Harley
@Martin: That's the key, my friend! God is merciful! He alone knows our heart. Christians are subject to the same things as others, as we live in this old world and human bodies. Oh yes, we have Jesus and with Him ALL things are possible, yet there are still deaths from illnesses (lots of illness are totally due to stress, which none of us can ... See Moreavoid in this life) - these old human bodies have not yet been glorified. And that does not mean we are not to pray for healing, etc. Sometimes healing comes while we are yet here on earth (and I've SEEN many healings here on this earth) and some come when we arrive in heaven :)
God bless :)
May 25 at 4:00pm · · · Flag
Michael W Doree
Michael W Doree
How can you repent when your dead!Only God the father has the right and numbers your days!I assume you might ask him to forgive you before you commit suicide!
May 25 at 4:05pm · · · Flag
Donna D. Harley
Donna D. Harley
@Michael: Christians can get to the point of their mind snapping, just as non-Christians can. When a mind snaps, one does not know what one is doing - it is not "willful" - Jesus' blood covers ALL things we UN-willingly do.
May 25 at 4:08pm · · · Flag
Holly Matthews Carey
Holly Matthews Carey
Donna, I agree...we have to remember that we are all at different spiritual maturity levels...and YES...some are delivered instantly from drugs...and some...even myself...had to deal with it for some time...knowing it was wrong and wanting so terribly to stop SO MANY NIGHTS of crying, waiting and beating ourselves up for the Lord to help us! It ... See MoreDID happen PRAISE GOD! But I lived in a state of repentance during that time...it was also a time that I just had to TRUST THAT JESUS LOVED ME NO MATTER WHAT AND THAT HE WOULD DELIVER ME!!! I learned a LOT during that time! I'm sure this is a very touchy subject...But I agree. God see's the heart...he's a compassionate God. Not saying this is a pass for people to go out and do drugs...but I believe it's a case by case for God...according to what he see's in us. Thank You.
May 25 at 4:11pm · · · Flag
Donna D. Harley
Donna D. Harley
@Holly: I have chills! Thank you for the powerful testimony of the Grace, Mercy and Love of our dear Lord Jesus Christ! Amen! I like the way you put it "a state of repentance." Yes, yes, the Word says we must die daily to sin. It also says we have to "fight the good fight." God had you in His hands, Luv, the entire time you were going through ... See Morethat, as He most assuredly did look on your "heart."
And exactly, we're not giving people a license to go and do drugs or kill themselves, just showing that God alone knows the heart, and that is what He looks upon, and only He alone can judge it :)
Aren't we blessed?! I'm so glad that God is not finished with me yet - and I'm so glad that He knows my true heart when I mess up! :) Blessings, Precious! :)
May 25 at 4:16pm · · · Flag
Holly Matthews Carey
Holly Matthews Carey
PS: I would wake EACH MORNING saying today is the day that I'll be free'd!!!! And then...somehow, it would be stuck in my face and I'd fail. I didn't have the "do it now, repent later" mentality. But I can tell you that the enemy had a hayday with me til I was free! Maybe it was something I needed to go through to have compassion and understanding? I don't know...God does! Blessings!
May 25 at 4:17pm · · · Flag
Donna D. Harley
Donna D. Harley
@Holly - just re-read your awesome post, and wanted again to AMEN a most important point you brought out. You said:

...it was also a time that I just had to TRUST THAT JESUS LOVED ME NO MATTER WHAT AND THAT HE WOULD DELIVER ME!!!

Amen! And that goes for "any" thing that is happening to us or around us in our lives. We face many difficulties, yet we TRUST His Word, even though it seems impossible! Nothing is impossible with God! :)
May 25 at 4:22pm · · · Flag
Donna D. Harley
Donna D. Harley
@Holly, just saw your last post! Praise God again !! Yes, yes! I have been there during a very difficult and long trial, I have been to the point to where I didn't have the strength 'mentally or physically' to try to crawl back out of my failure again, and GOD SHOWED ME THAT DIDN'T MATTER! I could pick up right where I left off, because HE had ... See Moreme! :) Amen! And yes, a thousand times, yes, sometimes there are things only to be learned when going through extreme difficulties - things we could learn no other way. I have learned to be totally compassionate with people that have experienced the same difficulties I have already experienced, I can truly feel their pain, and can understand how to pray with them and for them, as I HAVE BEEN THERE!
Prayer meeting time! :)
May 25 at 4:26pm · · · Flag
Judith K. Harrington
Judith K. Harrington
I would like to know
May 25 at 4:41pm · · · Flag
Michael Beattie
Michael Beattie
@Donna I respect your opinion but I will disagree that suicide is a snap decision. Yes, this is a decision that comes from a troubled mind but it is not a sudden one; only the action taken is sudden. Those who kill themselves know all too well the road they are headed down. They are all too willing to meet this end as a way to escape what is ... See Moretormenting them.

This decision, comes from a long period of anguish over our circumstances that may seem too hopeless for God to even help with. it is in that hopelessness that we come to this choice. That is where the enemy comes in to deceive us and keep us from realizing the hope we have in Him. Song of Solomon 2:1 tells us that Jesus is the rose of sharon; rose of sharon is an herbal medicine that regulates our mood. If we call on that spiritual rose of sharon we can be helped from our misery and rescued from the bondage satan would have us live in.

I speak from experience in that I have seen many friends take their own lives and it is something I do not look uopn lightly. You can call me heartless and insensitive if you wish but I would dare say that in the long run suicide is a very selfish act in that those who do make this choice do so without regard for the doubt & confusion they leave behind them in the minds of those who love them and could've helped them.

I will conclude by saying that for what ever reason it is committed, suicide is horrible & wrong; there is no way around that. I believe what I believe because it is what keeps me alive. Yes, I have contemplated suicide myself many times but my hope in Jesus, no matter how bad things may be, will prevent me from doing anything that would cause irreversible harm to myself & others.

May He bless you & keep you safe from all harm.
God bless you
May 25 at 4:48pm · · · Flag
Contina Savage
Contina Savage
His grace is enough. The church has done
damage to people saying if you commit
suicide you will go to hell. Mental illness
is what causes people to take their own
life. If someone were in their right mind... See More
they would not take their own life.
I serve a God of grace & mercy according
to the Word.
May 25 at 4:54pm · · · Flag
Annika Belfrage
Annika Belfrage
I knew two persons that commited suicide. One had a mental illness the other had not been saved for a long time. I got the same Scripture from the Lord about them: "The righteous perishes, and no man lays it to heart; and merciful men are taken away, none considering that the righteous is taken away from the evil [to come]. He enters into peace; they rest in their beds, each one who walks in his uprightness." (Isaiah 57:1-2).
May 25 at 5:41pm · · · Flag
Annika Belfrage
Annika Belfrage
The other guy also were saved. In the Swedish translation the last sentences says that through the power of evil the righteous is taken away and enters into the peace. Those who have walked their way straight forward will have peace in their resting rooms. Encouraging words.
May 25 at 5:55pm · · · Flag
Donna D. Harley
Donna D. Harley
Amen, Annika...... :)
May 25 at 6:01pm · · · Flag
Donna D. Harley
Donna D. Harley
@Michael: I am so thankful to God for keeping you in the palm of His mighty hand, my friend.

I, too, along with you and many, have wanted to die at times, in the heat of the moment when I was so over-burdened that I could find no rest, even though I knew Jesus. Thankfully, I never put actions to those thoughts and God kept me sane enough to ... See Moreremember the many blessings in my life that I "do" have, to be sane enough to remember that He will NEVER leave us or forsake us.....He's an awesome God! :)

I believe when the Christian actually gets to the point of "committing" the act of taking their lives, they have lost all sense of reasoning and hope (which, unfortunately, 'is' possible with the Christian also) - and crossed over into the literal definition of insanity, for which God would not hold them responsible.

Thank you for the blessings. May God continue to keep you in the palms of His mighty hands - and continue to show Himself mighty in you! May He bless and protect you by the power of His Spirit and His precious blood shed for all - at Calvary.
May 25 at 6:08pm · · · Flag
Donna D. Harley
Donna D. Harley
@Contina - your words reminded me of that precious song:
"Your Grace is enough,
Your Grace is enough,
Your Grace is enough for me......"
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Blessings!
May 25 at 6:11pm · · · Flag
Steven Owen
Steven Owen
Let God be true and every man a liar!
May 25 at 7:31pm · · · Flag
Charles Ryons Jr
Charles Ryons Jr
I believe once saved always saved. The issue of suicide for a saved person is dealt with at the Judgement Seat, when the Lord hands out rewards. Your place and level of responsibility is affected in Heaven.
May 25 at 7:44pm · · · Flag
Kristy Kirkes Williams
Kristy Kirkes Williams
Me and my daughters wondered about it to. I looked on www.gotguestions.org and it really helped. Love that website it has come in handy alot.
May 25 at 8:18pm · · · Flag
Cheaney Brenda
Cheaney Brenda
Judge not that ye be not judged!
May 25 at 9:07pm · · · Flag
Afreen Dilawar
Afreen Dilawar
Thou shalt not kill!
May 26 at 5:06am · · · Flag
Dawn R. Braun
Dawn R. Braun
No one knows the state of the heart of a person who is suicidal except Christ. I once was suicidal and I had fallen so deeply in depression that I wanted to kill myself. Nothing anyone said to me was helpful. All the time I was in this mental anguish, and that is what it is, Jesus kept telling me how much He loved me and reminded of the many ... See Morethings He had done in my life. There were things that happened that were so bad for such along period of time, I couldn't take it any more. You have to realize we are still human beings even though we have Jesus inside and move in great spiritual anointing. Some people think that they are exempt from all of this stuff.That is the time when the Church needs to gather together and do their job and not condemn. If a person kills themselves, it is because they have become so deeply depressed they see no other way out and if the pain is deep enough, they are trying to get rid of the pain, not themselves. The problem is we condemn what we don't understand. If they are unsaved and you may not know that anyway..yes, they won't most likely be in heaven. No one kills themselves on purpose.
May 26 at 10:25am · · · Flag
Donna D. Harley
Donna D. Harley
@Dawn: agreed and I am so thankful that Jesus brought you through. :)

You're right, we're not exempt, even mightily anointed people of God. We do have Jesus to help us when we get into this state, Praise His Name.....but you are spot on with your testimony.

May the Lord Jesus Christ continue to bless and keep you! :)
May 28 at 11:20am · · · Flag
Mihael McCoy
Mihael McCoy
this is a difficult area to minister to. Believers must be truthful but sensitive to the future of those who are living and are in need of hope--which must be in Christ. Those left behind need words of comfort and the peace of the Holy Spirit. I have used the verse- Romans 8:38 "Neither height nor depth.......nor anything can separate us from the love of God."
June 2 at 9:13pm · · · Flag
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